mc Digest, Vol 77, Issue 7

chris glur crglur at gmail.com
Mon Sep 13 14:32:36 UTC 2010


Subject: Tools for heavy-duty mc usage.

A typical task, like 'how to drive the Huawe 2552+ wireless terminal
from linux', may need multiple viweres to be open:
for a man/s, an email/s, a NwsGroup-article/s, the log of the
task...etc.
So if you've got 3 such tasks being investigatated, you can easily
have 20 files: hence mc/s running.
So, when you get your email or News, and it's got stuff relevant
to task B, you need to know which of the 20 mc/S to switch to.

I've raised this problem here and on *linux* groups before, but
it seems that users can manage with their full-featured-browser,
which does every thing that they want.

I've been using a tool that I hacked that starts off with lsof
<but show me only the pid-numbers of "/mc">, and combined with
`pstree -p` which allows the pid-numbers to be related to the
specific Desktop & VT, which allows you to view a list of
files open for mc/s and see which Desktop & VT to switch to, to
attend to the eg. newly arrived email item.

Here's a little tool which helps me to manage the Deb-Lenny
test installation [on a small scrap disk, because Debian hasn't
proven itself to me yet] which has no X yet, but is my only kernl2.6*
installation:
1. 6 VT/s with mc/s just isn't enough.
2. when you have to re-boot [for these damned USBs to settle]
 you don't want to loose all your settings.

So if you setup your user-menu [I use <f2>,6} to:
  echo "openvt mc " >> /root/reStartFiles
  pwd >> /root/reStartFiles ; %f >> /root/reStartFiles
[I'm writing this without checking eg. the \n], you create a
file of instructions which will:
1. open a root VT without having to enter the password
2. run the mc at the path which you had before rebooting
3. probably `cooledit <%f>` would even open the file that
  you were busy with before rebooting; but I find that setting
 my working side of mc to <ordered by latest used>, I don't
 need to have the file identified, other than that it was the
 most recent, ie. top of the list.
So you generate a [previously execute enabled] file with lines like:
openvt ; mc <the previously used path> ; <possibly cooledit
thepreviously usedFile>
Which restores your set of mc/S: working before you rebooted.

== Chris Glur.

PS. sorry, this web-based gmailer is crappy. I only use it for mail-lists,
because gmail is good for filtering spam.


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>    1. MC in console (Frank McCormick)
>    2. Re: MC in console (Yury V. Zaytsev)
>    3. Re: MC in console (Frank McCormick)
>    4. Re: MC in console (Yury V. Zaytsev)
>    5. Re: MC in console (Frank McCormick)
>    6. Re: MC in console (Iain Mac Donald)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:40:45 -0400
> From: Frank McCormick <beacon at videotron.ca>
> To: "mc at gnome.org" <mc at gnome.org>
> Subject: MC in console
> Message-ID: <20100909124045.c69b29db.beacon at videotron.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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>
> MC in the console is displaying garbage characters instead of line
> drawing in my Debian Squeeze .
> I use UTF8 on this machine-could that be the problem?
> I have tried reconfiguring console-setup with ISO and selecting
> various font options but that didn't change anything.
> Suggestions please ?
>
> Thanks
> --
> Frank<beacon at videotron.ca>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:43:36 +0200
> From: "Yury V. Zaytsev" <yury at shurup.com>
> To: Frank McCormick <beacon at videotron.ca>
> Cc: "mc at gnome.org" <mc at gnome.org>
> Subject: Re: MC in console
> Message-ID: <1284050616.8385.85.camel at mypride>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 12:40 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
>> MC in the console is displaying garbage characters instead of line
>> drawing in my Debian Squeeze .
>> I use UTF8 on this machine-could that be the problem?
>> I have tried reconfiguring console-setup with ISO and selecting
>> various font options but that didn't change anything.
>
> aptitude show mc
>
> locale
>
> --
> Sincerely yours,
> Yury V. Zaytsev
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:14:02 -0400
> From: Frank McCormick <beacon at videotron.ca>
> To: "Yury V. Zaytsev" <yury at shurup.com>
> Cc: "mc at gnome.org" <mc at gnome.org>
> Subject: Re: MC in console
> Message-ID: <20100909131402.f05538e4.beacon at videotron.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:43:36 +0200
> "Yury V. Zaytsev" <yury at shurup.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 12:40 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
>> > MC in the console is displaying garbage characters instead of line
>> > drawing in my Debian Squeeze .
>> > I use UTF8 on this machine-could that be the problem?
>> > I have tried reconfiguring console-setup with ISO and selecting
>> > various font options but that didn't change anything.
>>
>> aptitude show mc
>>
>> locale
>
>
> frank at squeeze:~$ aptitude show mc
> Package: mc
> State: installed
> Automatically installed: no
> Version: 3:4.7.0.6-1
> Priority: optional
> Section: utils
> Maintainer: Debian MC Packaging Group
> <pkg-mc-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org> Uncompressed Size: 6,574k
> Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6~), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.24.0), libgpm2 (>=
> 1.20.4), libslang2 (>= 2.0.7-1) Recommends: mime-support
> Suggests: perl, zip, unzip, bzip2, links | w3m | lynx, arj, file,
> xpdf-reader | pdf-viewer, dbview, odt2txt, gv, catdvi, djvulibre-bin,
> imagemagick, python, python-boto, python-tz Description: Midnight
> Commander - a powerful file manager GNU Midnight Commander is a
> text-mode full-screen file manager. It uses a two panel interface and
> a subshell for command execution. It includes an internal editor with
> syntax highlighting and an internal viewer with support for binary
> files. Also included is Virtual Filesystem (VFS), that allows files
> on remote systems (e.g. FTP, SSH servers) and files inside archives
> to be manipulated like real files. Homepage:
> http://www.midnight-commander.org
>
> frank at squeeze:~$ locale
> LANG=en_CA.UTF-8
> LC_CTYPE="en_CA.UTF-8"
> LC_NUMERIC="en_CA.UTF-8"
> LC_TIME="en_CA.UTF-8"
> LC_COLLATE="en_CA.UTF-8"
> LC_MONETARY="en_CA.UTF-8"
> LC_MESSAGES="en_CA.UTF-8"
> LC_PAPER="en_CA.UTF-8"
> LC_NAME="en_CA.UTF-8"
> LC_ADDRESS="en_CA.UTF-8"
> LC_TELEPHONE="en_CA.UTF-8"
> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_CA.UTF-8"
> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_CA.UTF-8"
> LC_ALL=
> frank at squeeze:~$
>
> frank at squeeze:~$ mc -V
> GNU Midnight Commander 4.7.0.6
> Virtual File System: tarfs, extfs, cpiofs, ftpfs, fish
> With builtin Editor
> Using system-installed S-Lang library with terminfo database
> With subshell support as default
> With support for background operations
> With mouse support on xterm and Linux console
> With support for X11 events
> With internationalization support
> With multiple codepages support
> Data types: char 8 int 32 long 32 void * 32 off_t 64 ecs_char 8
> frank at squeeze:~$
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Frank<beacon at videotron.ca>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:19:20 +0200
> From: "Yury V. Zaytsev" <yury at shurup.com>
> To: Frank McCormick <beacon at videotron.ca>
> Cc: "mc at gnome.org" <mc at gnome.org>
> Subject: Re: MC in console
> Message-ID: <1284052760.8385.88.camel at mypride>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 13:14 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
>> On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:43:36 +0200
>> "Yury V. Zaytsev" <yury at shurup.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 12:40 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
>> > > MC in the console is displaying garbage characters instead of line
>> > > drawing in my Debian Squeeze .
>> > > I use UTF8 on this machine-could that be the problem?
>> > > I have tried reconfiguring console-setup with ISO and selecting
>> > > various font options but that didn't change anything.
>
> Very good, now I have to tell you that I use this & UTF-8 on Karmic /
> Lucid / Hardy and have no problems whatsoever.
>
> Are you using mc in a terminal emulator (which one) or raw console?
>
> --
> Sincerely yours,
> Yury V. Zaytsev
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:25:32 -0400
> From: Frank McCormick <beacon at videotron.ca>
> To: "Yury V. Zaytsev" <yury at shurup.com>
> Cc: "mc at gnome.org" <mc at gnome.org>
> Subject: Re: MC in console
> Message-ID: <20100909132532.5dc992ac.beacon at videotron.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:19:20 +0200
> "Yury V. Zaytsev" <yury at shurup.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 13:14 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
>> > On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:43:36 +0200
>> > "Yury V. Zaytsev" <yury at shurup.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 12:40 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
>> > > > MC in the console is displaying garbage characters instead of line
>> > > > drawing in my Debian Squeeze .
>> > > > I use UTF8 on this machine-could that be the problem?
>> > > > I have tried reconfiguring console-setup with ISO and selecting
>> > > > various font options but that didn't change anything.
>>
>> Very good, now I have to tell you that I use this & UTF-8 on Karmic /
>> Lucid / Hardy and have no problems whatsoever.
>
>   Yes I checked and MC in a console runs fine in the latest Ubuntu.
>
>>
>> Are you using mc in a terminal emulator (which one) or raw console?
>
>   Runs fine in terminal...its the console  which is the problem.
>
>
> --
> Frank<beacon at videotron.ca>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:33:19 +0100
> From: Iain Mac Donald <mc.list at picturenow.co.uk>
> To: mc at gnome.org
> Subject: Re: MC in console
> Message-ID: <20100909183319.5894bf4f at dylan.coachhouse>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:19:20 +0200
> "Yury V. Zaytsev" <yury at shurup.com> wrote:
>
>> Very good, now I have to tell you that I use this & UTF-8 on Karmic /
>> Lucid / Hardy and have no problems whatsoever.
>
> I am using mc 3:4.7.0.6-1 on Squeeze with console, xterm and
> xfce4-terminal all without problem. Locale is en_GB.UTF-8.
>
> Regards,
> Iain.
>
>
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