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[bulia byak]

First, looks like I was a bit too optimistic. Alt-Fkeys can be enabled in this way, but ctrl-insert cannot because "learned key" for ctrl-insert is actually the same as insert.

> > Yes, but I can define reread to be called by F17 in the source,
> > recompile, and then define Ctrl-Insert to be F17. Awkward but "works for
> > me." Thanks for helping out!
> 
> Then it works for you and only for you.  Other users cannot benefit from
> this change.

It's not really a change - just a configuration setting to make it more useable for _me_. And now that this is published here in the list, other users can similarly reconfigure their copies of the program as they please. Until we have a way to define keymaps via a config file, we'll have to live with having to hack the source, because changing key bindings is actually one of the most basic configuration needs.

> > However, if the F11-F20 are just empty placeholders, I would love to see
> > them called in a more intuitive fashion. Also having more than 10 such
> > placeholders would be helpful. (And an ability to fully define keymaps
> > without having to recompile, of course...)
> 
> They are not empty placeholders.  F14 opens a new editor window when the
> panels are active.  F17 continues search in the viewer and the editor.

Great idea, I will now "learn" shift-f4 as f14 so it opens a new editor window - I missed this a lot. Other F-teens, however, such as F12, are not used by mc by default and therefore can be used exactly thus - as placeholders.

> > for example:
> > alt-f7: \e\e[18~
> > ctrl-insert: \e[2~
> 
> I don't think mc could have written this.  Those keys are not redefinable
> now.

It did, at least for alt-f7. The ctrl-insert code, however, is the same as insert alone :(  Can this be fixed somehow?  I don't dare to dream about the ability to distinguish between, say, plain insert and keypad-insert (as Emacs does) but what about just plain old ctrl-insert?


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can be enabled in this way, but ctrl-insert cannot because "learned key" for ctrl-insert is actually the same as insert.

> > Yes, but I can define reread to be called by F17 in the source,
> > recompile, and then define Ctrl-Insert to be F17. Awkward but "works for
> > me." Thanks for helping out!
> 
> Then it works for you and only for you.  Other users cannot benefit from
> this change.

It's not really a change - just a configuration setting to make it more useable for _me_. And now that this is published here in the list, other users can similarly reconfigure their copies of the program as they please. Until we have a way to define keymaps via a config file, we'll have to live with having to hack the source, because changing key bindings is actually one of the most basic configuration needs.

> > However, if the F11-F20 are just empty placeholders, I would love to see
> > them called in a more intuitive fashion. Also having more than 10 such
> > placeholders would be helpful. (And an ability to fully define keymaps
> > without having to recompile, of course...)
> 
> They are not empty placeholders.  F14 opens a new editor window when the
> panels are active.  F17 continues search in the viewer and the editor.

Great idea, I will now "learn" shift-f4 as f14 so it opens a new editor window - I missed this a lot. Other F-teens, however, such as F12, are not used by mc by default and therefore can be used exactly thus - as placeholders.

> > for example:
> > alt-f7: \e\