[ANN] mc^2
Egmont Koblinger
egmont at gmail.com
Fri May 8 10:41:59 UTC 2015
Hi,
How much work would it be to port your branch to 4.8.14 or git head
(they're pretty much the same now)?
I'd really like to use your version for daily work (and maybe even start
writing plugins) to gather feedback. On the other hand, mc-4.8.14 contains
some of my work that I really wouldn't want to live without. And of course
I wouldn't want to switch back-n-forth between two versions either.
Thanks a lot,
egmont
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Mooffie <mooffie at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys!
>
> I've just published a branch of MC with Lua support:
>
> http://www.typo.co.il/~mooffie/mc-lua/docs/html/
>
> See the "screenshots" link.
>
> Also see the "other documents" link for background (especially
> "HISTORY").
>
> Many, many tickets can be solved with mc^2, but I don't want to spam
> the ticket queue with my posts, so I've prepared a list of some such
> tickets (see "other documents" -> "TICKETS").
>
> (But in a few tickets I *will* comment: in tickets I believe a
> constructive discussion could ensue, or where I feel people are truly
> in need of a solution.)
>
> ==
>
> Now, I guess I'll be attacked for one reason or another. Let me save
> your time by attacking myself for you:
>
> ==
>
> Q: "Is this a 'fork' of MC? Are you trying to split the community?"
>
> A: No, this is not a "fork" (as per Wikipedia's definition). It's intended
> to be "food for thought" for the MC community. My hope is that
> eventually the principle behind mc^2 will be adopted by MC.
>
> ==
>
> Q: "Is seems that you've invested a lot of time in this. Gosh, why
> waste human resources?! Especially on something that nobody's
> going to use?"
>
> A: The time I "waste" here is negligible in comparison to the time and
> efforts wasted by tens of people who have tried to contribute code
> to MC over the years.
>
> The principle behind mc^2, if adopted by MC, is going to put an end
> to this waste of human resources.
>
> ==
>
> Q: "But why use Lua?!?! Why not pick the language that starts
> with 'P'?! Why not make it work with any language?!??!"
>
> A: Let's not talk about languages/VMs *right now*. Please, as much as
> it's tempting.
>
> Right now, the language is not the issue. The issue is the
> principle, of having some extension language.
>
> The language/VM is obviously something everybody will have
> something to say about. You will. But not now.
>
> If every passerby here will now emit his "2 cents" opinion/rant,
> it will kill the vision/project. It will start a Holy War. It will
> derail the discussion from the mainroad to the gutters. It's the
> least constructive thing that could happen. It means death.
>
> In the future, when we know the principle will be regarded favorably
> by MC's maintainers, we could open this issue and discuss things.
>
> One thing's for sure: You can't give an opinion about the subject
> without considering it for at least a week (or a month, I'd say).
> There are various facets to consider. There are threads of thoughts
> to be picked and discarded. There are insights to be acquired. You
> can't just barge in with "use Python!!", "use Parrot!", "use
> GObject!". As the Chinese saying goes, "Opinions are like belly
> buttons: everybody has one". It should take more, much more, than
> an "opinion" to affect the discussion.
>
> So, again: let's not talk about languages now.
>
> (For the record: I recorded my reasons for choosing Lua in
> "other documents" -> "HISTORY".)
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